[Thinkpad] Further Update on OK, not a Thinkpad issue, but bear with me... Any ideas?

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Not the same as the drive manufacturers drive fitness test, in my opinion...
but if not a drive, it is an install error for Windows, or memory error or
video graphics failure... sometimes a sound card will cause this.


On 2/7/07, RWM <RWM at rwmann.com> wrote:
>
> Further frustrating results:
>
>   - the Symantec Disk Doctor run fixed some indexes (indices?), but no
> bad sectors, and no file errors.
>
>   - the browser in Symantec Recovery Disk (from NIS 2006) shows what
> appears to be all partitions and files intact and the right size
>
>   - but the machine still won't boot, and I can't figure out how to
> capture the error log that should be created at the forced shutdown.
>
> Maddening.
>
> - Bob
>
>
>
> RWM wrote:
> > Yes, thanks, these are the two records that a google search returns.
> >
> > I've run the traps on the Symantec/PM8.0 with no joy (presuming the fix
> > to be same as with PM6.0; who knows?) and following the second link,
> > have run CHKDSK /R with similar results.  Now working on a Symantec
> > Rescue Disk/Disk Doctor recovery.  Results TBA.
> >
> > Thanks again for your pointers.
> >
> > - Bob
> >
> >
> >
> > Matt wrote:
> >
> >>
> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/powerquest.nsf/56d21993ad4e6baa88256e91005066ad/fae91edaafb653de88256e75007cbc3d?OpenDocument&prod=PartitionMagic&ver=8.0&src=sg&pcode=pmagic&svy=&csm=no
> >>
> >>http://www.vonglahn.com/udma_pio.htm
> >>
> >>
> >>Best of luck.
> >>
> >>Matt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "RWM (Out of the Office)" <RWM at RWMann.com>
> >>To: "Thinkpad User Group" <thinkpad at stderr.org>
> >>Cc: "David Ross" <ross at math.hawaii.edu>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 4:09 PM
> >>Subject: [Thinkpad] Update on OK, not a Thinkpad issue, but bear with
> me...
> >>Any ideas?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Well, booting to PartitionMagic 6.0 tells me "partition improperly
> >>>dismounted", the option to "fix" is grayed out, does not suggest
> another
> >>>remedy, and Symantec has taken down all the old online links to PM6
> >>>documentation.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>RWM (Out of the Office) wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>David Ross wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>I've booted to the Win2K CD with no apparent adverse consequences.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>But did you run stuff for a while?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Yes, in the sense that I ran thru various Restore Console display
> >>>>options - MAP, PARTINFO, TYPE c:\BOOT.INI, CHKDSK /P and the like -
> but
> >>>>no, nothing that would smoke a PS.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I replaced a PS last year with pretty much your symptoms, it would
> keep
> >>>>>rebooting after the disk check; if I left it off overnight  I could
> coax
> >>>>>it to run Windows for a while before a reboot  and when I ran Ubunto
> >>>>>live it would work for almost an hour before freezing up.  Changing
> the
> >>>>>PS fixed everything.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Certainly an option to consider.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Any reason I shouldn't try FIX BOOT and/or FIXMBR ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>As Chris said, it won't help, but it won't hurt either.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I think running some kind of diagnostic or non-Windows CD is the only
> >>>>>way you're going to figure out if it is hardware or Windows at fault.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Would you place the Win2K system file Restore in that category?
> >>>>Partition Magic 6 boot disk?  If not, what as examples?
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks for your assistance and forebearance.
> >>>>
> >>>>- Bob
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>David
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>- Bob
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>David Ross wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>This too is a classic symptom of a failing power supply.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Try booting to a live linux distro CD or diagnostic CD, something
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>that
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>doesn't use your HD, and see if it freezes after a while.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>DR
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>From: "RWM (Out of the Office)" <RWM at RWMann.com>
> >>>>>>>To: "Thinkpad User Group" <thinkpad at stderr.org>
> >>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 9:09 AM
> >>>>>>>Subject: [Thinkpad] OK, not a Thinkpad issue,but bear with me...
> Any
> >>>>>>>ideas?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>After a scheduled boot time defrag, my primary Compaq desktop has
> >>>>>>>>developed a repeated black screen (could be blue; too quick to see
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>or
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>read) reboot after performing an apparently successful "scheduled
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>disk
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>check" from the partial Win2k splash screen.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>It POSTS OK, boots through BIOS OK, boots through the black and
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>white
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>zipper OK, boots through the Win2K splash screen with blue
> progress
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>bar,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>then proceeds to the repeated "disk check has been scheduled"
> phase,
> >>>>>>>>completes this successfully, then crashes.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>I have tried booting to "last known good configuration" and safe
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>mode,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>same outcomes.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Any ideas on this?  I have the Win2K CD, so can try a recovery, if
> >>>>>>>>that's likely to be useful.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Yes, I have Ghost backups, but of course now have no client on
> which
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>to
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>recover them.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>- RWM, from a Thinkpad...
>
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