[Thinkpad] Further Update on OK, not a Thinkpad issue, but bear with me... Any ideas?

[RWM]

Further frustrating results:

  - the Symantec Disk Doctor run fixed some indexes (indices?), but no 
bad sectors, and no file errors.

  - the browser in Symantec Recovery Disk (from NIS 2006) shows what 
appears to be all partitions and files intact and the right size

  - but the machine still won't boot, and I can't figure out how to 
capture the error log that should be created at the forced shutdown.

Maddening.

- Bob



RWM wrote:
> Yes, thanks, these are the two records that a google search returns.
> 
> I've run the traps on the Symantec/PM8.0 with no joy (presuming the fix 
> to be same as with PM6.0; who knows?) and following the second link, 
> have run CHKDSK /R with similar results.  Now working on a Symantec 
> Rescue Disk/Disk Doctor recovery.  Results TBA.
> 
> Thanks again for your pointers.
> 
> - Bob
> 
> 
> 
> Matt wrote:
> 
>>http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/powerquest.nsf/56d21993ad4e6baa88256e91005066ad/fae91edaafb653de88256e75007cbc3d?OpenDocument&prod=PartitionMagic&ver=8.0&src=sg&pcode=pmagic&svy=&csm=no
>>
>>http://www.vonglahn.com/udma_pio.htm
>>
>>
>>Best of luck.
>>
>>Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "RWM (Out of the Office)" <RWM at RWMann.com>
>>To: "Thinkpad User Group" <thinkpad at stderr.org>
>>Cc: "David Ross" <ross at math.hawaii.edu>
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 4:09 PM
>>Subject: [Thinkpad] Update on OK, not a Thinkpad issue, but bear with me... 
>>Any ideas?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Well, booting to PartitionMagic 6.0 tells me "partition improperly
>>>dismounted", the option to "fix" is grayed out, does not suggest another
>>>remedy, and Symantec has taken down all the old online links to PM6
>>>documentation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>RWM (Out of the Office) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>David Ross wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>I've booted to the Win2K CD with no apparent adverse consequences.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>But did you run stuff for a while?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yes, in the sense that I ran thru various Restore Console display
>>>>options - MAP, PARTINFO, TYPE c:\BOOT.INI, CHKDSK /P and the like - but
>>>>no, nothing that would smoke a PS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I replaced a PS last year with pretty much your symptoms, it would keep
>>>>>rebooting after the disk check; if I left it off overnight  I could coax
>>>>>it to run Windows for a while before a reboot  and when I ran Ubunto
>>>>>live it would work for almost an hour before freezing up.  Changing the
>>>>>PS fixed everything.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Certainly an option to consider.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Any reason I shouldn't try FIX BOOT and/or FIXMBR ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>As Chris said, it won't help, but it won't hurt either.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think running some kind of diagnostic or non-Windows CD is the only
>>>>>way you're going to figure out if it is hardware or Windows at fault.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Would you place the Win2K system file Restore in that category?
>>>>Partition Magic 6 boot disk?  If not, what as examples?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for your assistance and forebearance.
>>>>
>>>>- Bob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>- Bob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>David Ross wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This too is a classic symptom of a failing power supply.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Try booting to a live linux distro CD or diagnostic CD, something
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>that
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>doesn't use your HD, and see if it freezes after a while.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>DR
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>From: "RWM (Out of the Office)" <RWM at RWMann.com>
>>>>>>>To: "Thinkpad User Group" <thinkpad at stderr.org>
>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 9:09 AM
>>>>>>>Subject: [Thinkpad] OK, not a Thinkpad issue,but bear with me... Any
>>>>>>>ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>After a scheduled boot time defrag, my primary Compaq desktop has
>>>>>>>>developed a repeated black screen (could be blue; too quick to see
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>or
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>read) reboot after performing an apparently successful "scheduled
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>disk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>check" from the partial Win2k splash screen.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It POSTS OK, boots through BIOS OK, boots through the black and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>white
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>zipper OK, boots through the Win2K splash screen with blue progress
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>bar,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>then proceeds to the repeated "disk check has been scheduled" phase,
>>>>>>>>completes this successfully, then crashes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have tried booting to "last known good configuration" and safe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>mode,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>same outcomes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Any ideas on this?  I have the Win2K CD, so can try a recovery, if
>>>>>>>>that's likely to be useful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yes, I have Ghost backups, but of course now have no client on which
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>recover them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>- RWM, from a Thinkpad...