[Tariqas] Article: Afghans struggle over Christian convert issue

[frank gaude']

Thank you, Amany, for your offering. Much appreciated. What you say has 
been my understanding for at least 30 years. But now, reading accounts 
that majorities wish death to those who convert seems strange.

The historical ruler Saladin did exactly as you suggest regarding 
religions: he let Be. His example is a model for many mystics of both 
the past and present.

You know, it all comes down to what we believe. In this age, the wisdom 
school suggests that all peoples examine, in depth, why they believe 
what they believe. Belief systems seems to be the root-cause of so much 
hatred in the world, today and in the past. Did any prophet ever tell us 
to "hate other peoples"? No, love all as self, as Self, as Allah. <smile>

Pray, let there be peace and let it begin with me.

Love, only love,
tanzen

HddnPrls at aol.com wrote:
> In 'Sulh al-Hudaybiyah" "The Peace Treaty of al-Hudaybiyah" there were 
> many conditions which Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) accepted to make peace 
> between the Muslim community and the Qurish tribe. One of these 
> conditions was: If one of the Muslims goes to Qurish, like converting 
> from Islam to the religion of Quarish, Quarish should keep him. But if 
> someone goes to the Muslims, that is converting from Quarish religion 
> to Islam, the Muslims must send him back to Quarish.
>  
> The Prophet accepted that condition which meant, he allowed people to 
> convert from Islam and choose the life style and community they want 
> to live with. He trusted that it won't matter that much to whoever 
> become self-submitters to the Truth where he lives because he an 
> maintain his inner reality, but it would matter to those who still 
> indulged in the world and so he allowed it for them.
>  
> There is an ayah in the Qur'an that speaks of those go back and forth 
> between believing and covering up of the Truth (kufr) that Allah will 
> finally leave them to stray. But the point is that they were allowed 
> to do so without killing them.
>  
> Only those who hurt the Muslims, by spying or betraying or preventing 
> them from practicing or learning or believing in Islam, should be 
> judged. If they choose to emigrate to another community and stop 
> hurting the Muslims and fightung against Islam, or to a country where 
> a peace treaty is signed between the Muslims and the people of that 
> country, then such person should be granted that right.
>  
> I know that not all Muslims believe in what I say, but there are 
> many who believe so and many others who may listen to a proof from the 
> Qur'an and Sunnah.
>  
> Salaam
> Amany
>  
> In a message dated 3/25/2006 1:35:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> tanzen at sbcglobal.net writes:
>
>     Afghans struggle over Christian convert issue
>     Afghan officials, trying to resolve a crisis over an Afghan who
>     may face
>     the death penalty for converting to Christianity, struggled on
>     Saturday
>     to satisfy conflicting international and domestic demands:
>
>          http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12009717/from/ET/
>
>     May we have a quiet discussion about this matter?
>
>     Does not holy Qur'an state in several places that "freedom of
>     religion"
>     is required? Where does Muhammad state that a person should be
>     executed
>     if he/she converts from one religion to another?
>
>     Having "faith in our beliefs" can drive us to doing things that are
>     alien to love, only love,
>     tanzen
>
>