[Tariqas] NYTimes.com: For Muslim Who Says Violence Destroys Islam, Violent Threats

[Elschot, W.B.]

Dear Tanzen,

I also don't have much knowledge of it, but I remember that
Idries Shah in his book "The Sufis" wrote about a ritual
that was supposed to be a football (soccer) match. But if I
remember correctly he wrote that there were 12 members in a
soccer team. Maybe he knew something about Sufism but
soccer is a different ball game.

It is written in the stars who'll be the next world
champion soccer. What are the opinions of the soccer lovers
among those lurking here?

Love, only love,
Siraj


On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 07:57:13 -0800
 Tanzen Two-feather <tanzen at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I have no knowledge of it... don't follow much sports,
> but I think I 
> should. What do you think of the WC next summer?
> 
> tanzen
> 
> Elschot, W.B. wrote:
> > Dear Frank and all, 
> >
> > What do you think of the Word Championship soccer in
> > Germany next summer?
> >
> > Siraj
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:42:44 -0800
> >  frank gaude' <tanzen at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >   
> >> Well, Frank, I do feel she is on to something, not
> only
> >> for Islam, but 
> >> for Christianity and maybe all organized religions in
> >> general. It's a 
> >> sign of the times.
> >>
> >> The Crusades were a reflection of the European
> religious
> >> leadership of 
> >> those times.
> >>
> >> Love, only love,
> >> tanzen (aka frank gaudé) at web site
> >> http://yantrayoga.typepad.com/noname
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> >>
> >> Frank Gorin wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Wafa Sultan apparently finds it easier to demonize
> >>>       
> >> Islam than to look 
> >>     
> >>> into centuries of Mideast political corruption and
> >>>       
> >> failure of 
> >>     
> >>> leadership.  To some extent this includes a failure
> of
> >>>       
> >> religious 
> >>     
> >>> leadership.  But does it reflect on Islam per se?
>  One
> >>>       
> >> might as well 
> >>     
> >>> say that the Crusades were a reflection of the Gospel
> >>>       
> >> of Jesus.
> >>     
> >>> ~ Frank   
> >>>       
> 
> 
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