Ynt: [Tariqas] Re: Tariqas digest, Vol 1 #177 - 6 msgs
Sukru Kaya
tariqas@stderr.org
Wed, 1 Jan 1997 12:06:09 +0200
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Salaam, Sukru
Peace be upon you
I hope you know my response was entirely tongue-in-cheek (farse)
and that I popped-off only because I couldn't figure out its =
mysterious
purpose. Same with the Bio Cell question. Yes, I have heard of them.
???????
Please elucidate
----
i didnt say bio cell...i said bios cell..the message i sent was not =
from 1997. i'm using same 166 mmx for the last 4 years..and i guess bios =
cell ran out of power..so when the comp goes off current date settings =
is not saved and each time i turn it on the date starts with 1 january =
1997 00:00. thats all the issue.=20
as to why i posted the message...there are attempts to extract sufism =
from Islam and present it as a seperate belief system, which also have =
advocates on this list. Sufism is nothing without Islam. Mystics can =
pursue their own ways, i wish them a prosperous life. But Sufism is =
meaningful only with Islam. (btw, i accept Sufism as an Islamic term. I =
call mytics what people call non-muslim sufis)=20
mystics have their own view of Unity. They try to seperate Ibn Arabi =
and other great Sufis from their Islamic character and portray them as =
mere humanitarian and mystical figures. Everyone may benefit from their =
works but the problem is that they show them witness to their own =
un-Islamic views. Ibn Arabi, Rumi, Yunus Emre and others are meaningful =
only within Islam.=20
Islam is haqiqat and tariqat is marifat. A real Sufi is one who best =
follows the example of the Prophet s.a.w, in all aspects of life. I'm =
not after monks who meditate by day and night but sufis who study, work, =
fight in the day for Allah and pray in the night for Allah. A muslim, if =
anyone wishes to be nominated as, should be aware that they are not just =
beholders of a belief system but builders of a civilization, which seeks =
goodness of all mankind. And most of the time a civilization is built on =
ink, sweat and blood, along with a high spirit.=20
Wassalam,
Sukru
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<DIV>Salaam, Sukru</DIV>
<DIV>Peace be upon you</DIV>
<DIV>I hope you know my response was entirely tongue-in-cheek =
(farse)</DIV>
<DIV>and that I popped-off only because I couldn't figure out its=20
mysterious</DIV>
<DIV>purpose. Same with the Bio Cell question. Yes, I have =
heard of=20
them.</DIV>
<DIV>???????</DIV>
<DIV>Please elucidate</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>----</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>i didnt say bio cell...i said bios cell..the message i sent was =
not from=20
1997. i'm using same 166 mmx for the last 4 years..and i guess bios =
cell ran=20
out of power..so when the comp goes off current date settings is not =
saved and=20
each time i turn it on the date starts with 1 january 1997 00:00. =
thats all=20
the issue. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>as to why i posted the message...there are attempts to extract =
sufism=20
from Islam and present it as a seperate belief system, which also have =
advocates on this list. Sufism is nothing without Islam. Mystics can =
pursue=20
their own ways, i wish them a prosperous life. But Sufism is =
meaningful only=20
with Islam. (btw, i accept Sufism as an Islamic term. I call =
mytics what=20
people call non-muslim sufis) </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>mystics have their own view of Unity. They try to seperate =
Ibn Arabi=20
and other great Sufis from their Islamic character and =
portray them=20
as mere humanitarian and mystical figures. Everyone may benefit from =
their=20
works but the problem is that they show them witness to their =
own=20
un-Islamic views. Ibn Arabi, Rumi, Yunus Emre and others =
are meaningful=20
only within Islam. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Islam is haqiqat and tariqat is marifat. A real Sufi is one who =
best=20
follows the example of the Prophet s.a.w, in all aspects of =
life. I'm not=20
after monks who meditate by day and night but sufis who study, work, =
fight in=20
the day for Allah and pray in the night for Allah. A muslim, if =
anyone=20
wishes to be nominated as, should be aware that they are not=20
just beholders of a belief system but builders of a=20
civilization, which seeks goodness of all mankind. And most of =
the=20
time a civilization is built on ink, sweat and blood, along =
with a=20
high spirit. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Wassalam,</DIV>
<DIV>Sukru</DIV>
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