[Inquiry] Question On Realism
Jon Awbrey
jawbrey at att.net
Thu Mar 3 11:18:18 CST 2005
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QOR. Note 1
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ML = Martin Lefebvre (addressing the Peirce List)
ML: What follows is a question (with a possible answer)
and I'd be interested to know how members of this
community see the problem (and its solution).
ML: Like many readers of Peirce I have dismissed the little I have read by
R. Rorty on truth and reality. I'm not a professional philosopher and
since most of the philosophy I read is connected in one way or another
to Peirce, I have not spent much time wondering how to counter Rorty's
claims. That is until now, until Rortyans (and other extreme relativists)
invaded my classroom. This is forcing me to find what I condider the best
arguments possible to counter their various forms of "nominalism" and argue
for the value of Peircean realism in all of its complexity. Now the best
argument I could come up with concerns error and doubt. For Peirce doubt
is surely a manifestation of a reality that is independent "of what you or
I or anyone else" think it to be. In other words, if our inquiry can be
shown to have been properly conducted and if our expectations have not
been met, it is obviously because something is resisting: a Secondness
that doesn't fall under the rule of this particuliar reasoning. Now
this seems to me right now to be the best way to rebutt the Rortyans
since any positive claim (such as: 'if I can predict that this stone
will fall as soon as I remove my hand from under it, it is because the
law of attraction is real') can be recuperated by their nominalism.
In short -- and in semeiotic terms --, it seems to me that as long
as we go about this with a positive proof we will not be able to
illustrate what distinguishes the dynamic object from the immediate
object. Of course, that distinction jumps at us (the clash of the
real) the moment we consider the error of our judgment (perceptual
or otherwise). In the little I've read from Rorty, he seems to
confuse truth and warranted assertion which I would say is
precisely what the distinction between dynamic and immediate
objects enables us to avoid.
ML: For the moment I don't see a better argument.
I'll be grateful if anyone has one.
Martin,
I don't have any knock-down arguments that would impress folks
so well insulated from brute realities, but it is an interesting
diagnostic problem. I think I would approach it by deconstructing
the kinds of naive nominalism and relativism that we find here, in
comparison to experienced, sophisticated, or realistic varieties of
the same perspectives. To do this we would have to ask ourselves:
What are the insightful bits of truth that reside at the hearts of
nominal and relative thinking, the singular cores that makes these
cliches of thought so initially attractive, and where exactly do
they go wrong, when they exaggerate their initial insights to
such uncritical degrees that they become such ludicrous
caricatures of rationale-ity?
Jon Awbrey
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