[Inquiry] Re: Kaina Stoicheia -- Discussion

[Jon Awbrey]

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KS.  Discussion Note 3

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JP = Jim Piat

Re: KS-DIS 2.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-December/003282.html
In: KS-DIS.    http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-December/thread.html#3272

Jim, Peirce List,

Replies interspersed.

JP: Would you give me an example of one of Peirce's genuine,
    necessary and sufficient, descripitions of a sign, and perhaps
    for the purpose of contrast one of his non-genuine definitions
    that fails to meet these criteria.  Also would you give me the
    necessary and sufficient conditions for discerning which is which.

Yes, if you Google(TM) -- or Transcendental Meditate (TM) if you prefer --
on +Awbrey "Sign Relation" and its pluralization (Google has taken of late
to using fuzzy conjunctions, so you now have to put in the "+" to force the
old-fangled logical conjunction), you'll get my e-tire e-lected e-corpus of
writings on the subject, but to make a long story clear I can do no better
than recommend the standards of clarity demanded by my co-author in this
"Hermeneutics and Human Science" conference paper from 1992, revised for
the journal "Inquiry:  Critical Thinking Across the Disciplines in 1995:

| Jon Awbrey & Susan Awbrey, "Interpretation as Action:  The Risk of Inquiry"
| http://www.chss.montclair.edu/inquiry/fall95/awbrey.html
| NB.  The reference to "Habermas" should be "Gadamer".

In most of those places I will probably allude to the dynamic duo of variants of
the definition in NEM 4 as being my pets for adequacy, clarity, and completeness.
One of the reasons that I remember those so fondly is that it wasn't until rather
late, when I chanced on a copy of the NEM volumes in a used book store in the mid
80's and was actually fortunate enough to have the spare cash on hand to buy them.
I have to tell you that up until that time I had always wondered why Peirce never
bothered to define this most important concept of a sign -- I know, but only now,
that this will sound shocking to many people, but they would need to understand
that the only definition of definition that had been engrained into my engrams
was the one that I knew from logic and math courses, and since it's so common
in loose speech and writing for all of us to say "definition" when we really
mean "something that's more or less true of a special case of the thing",
I had probably developed the automatic habit of reading the looser uses
as "descriptions", not true "definitions".  That was my consciousness.

I made the mistake of going to bed early last might
which only led to my waking up at 3 AM, and so I'll
need to break fast for coffee before I can continue.

Jon Awbrey

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