[Inquiry] Kaina Stoicheia -- Discussion
Jon Awbrey
jawbrey at att.net
Thu Dec 1 08:48:06 CST 2005
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KS. Discussion Note 1
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SL = Søren Lund
Re: KS-COM 11. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-November/003269.html
In: KS-COM. http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-November/thread.html#3263
Soren, Peirce List,
Recall that we are working in the context of Peirce's theory of sign relations,
where a proposition is a type of symbol, a symbol is a type of sign, a sign is
defined by its participation in a specified role of a particular sign relation,
and a sign relation in general is defined as a 3-adic relation that satisfies
a particular definition, for instance, this one:
| A sign is something, A, which brings something, B,
| its interpretant sign determined or created by it,
| into the same sort of correspondence with something,
| C, its object, as that in which itself stands to C.
|
| C.S. Peirce, NEM 4, pp. 20-21, cf. p. 54 (1902).
|
| C.S. Peirce, [Application to the Carnegie Institution], L 75, pp. 13-73 in:
| Carolyn Eisele (ed.), 'The New Elements of Mathematics by Charles S. Peirce,
| Volume 4, Mathematical Philosophy', Mouton, The Hague, 1976. Available here:
| Arisbe Website, http://members.door.net/arisbe/menu/library/bycsp/l75/l75.htm
You give us an able summary of a host of classical and modern aporias
that affect various attempts to say what a proposition is, but all of
those stagmas, so far as I can tell, appear to arise from the attempt
to form a particular order of "wholly useless abstractions" (WUA'a).
Given the obvious utility of many abstractions, that leaves us the
task of saying what exactly pushes an abstraction over the edge
of use. This can be difficult to diagnose, but it's easier to
diagnose than it is to identify the underlying causes thereof.
One factor that strikes me at present is the fact that some
abstractions are "absolutized" or "decontextualized" past
the point of usefulness, and the inclination to do that
appears to arise from a habit of "essentializing" that
may indeed be innate to our evolutionary inheritance,
or at least built into our most familiar languages.
Essentialism is the tendency of thought that tends to seek the explanation
of everything in "categories of unstructured things" (COUT's). In effect,
it tends to think that the end of explanation has been reached once we've
named the monadic predicate that classifies the thing to be explained.
This is such a persistent tendency of the human mind that it can be observed
to influence the thinking even of those who more reflectively might know better --
who might know better from reading Peirce, who might know better from being Peirce --
but it is not overall the thrust of Peirce's efforts in logic and semiotics, which
are indeed partly intended as a remedy for this condition of overweening essentialism.
Jon Awbrey
SL: Speaking of the proposition and Peirce's conception of it.
I think there is good reasons for attacking this curious
logical unit and even better to abandon it.
SL: If "proposition" is not a fancy term for "sentence", what is it? One suggestion
is that the proposition is the meaning of the sentence, or at least of the type
of sentence that grammarians call "declarative". But this will hardly do, for
the reasons already pointed out by the author of the 'Dissoi Logoi'. (The
author of the ancient text known as the 'Dissoi Logoi' points out that the
words "I am an initiate" may be uttered both by an initiate and by one who
is not (W. Kneale and M. Kneale, 'The Development of Logic', rev. ed.,
Oxford Clarendon, 1984, p. 16). If this is accepted, it seems that
we have to conclude either that one and the same form of words may
be both true and false, or else that what is true or false is not
the form of words itself. If the former is the case, it frustrates
any enterprise of formulating the principles of valid inference on
the basis of relations between sentences. If the latter is the case,
then the metalinguistic terms "true" and "false" cannot properly apply
to sentences at all, but must be deemed to apply to something else.
Western logic chose the latter option, and thereby conjured into
existence what was later called the "proposition".) That is to say,
if the grounds for rejecting the sentence are valid (i.e. that the
same sentence can be uttered on one occasion to express a truth, but
on another occasion to express a falsehood), then the objection must
carry over to the meaning of the sentence, unless we are prepared to
divorce the meaning from the sentence. But if we do that, we have in
effect ushered in two even more mysterious metalinguistic entities, i.e.
sentences without (permanent) meanings, and sentence-meaning that float
free of their sentences. It is difficult to see where the explanatory
gain lies, let alone how the two cohere.
SL: Another suggestion is that the proposition is the use
made of the (declarative) sentence. Thus if A and B both
utter the sentence I am an initiate, they may be said to be
putting it to different uses; viz in one case to claim that A
is an initiate, and in the other to claim that B is an initiate.
But this does not get us much further either. For all that has
been achieved here is the proposal of an arbitrarily restricted
employment of the term use. When we investigate the nature of
the restriction, the "use" of the sentence turns out to be
whatever it is that results in something true or false --
e.g. A's claim or B's claim. Here one metalinguistic
term (use) simply hides behind another (claim).
SL: Is the "proposition", then, more plausibly regarded as what it is
that is claimed when a claim is made, asserted when an assertion is
made, stated when a statement is made, etc.? But here we start another
metalinguistic wild goose chase. For claim, assertion and statement are
all metalinguistic terms with no better credentials than proposition itself.
To define the proposition as the "object" or "content" of claims, assertions,
statements, etc. is simply to substitute one obscurity for another.
SL: Why do these and similar attempts to rescue the proposition all come to grief
in this way? Because what is being attempted is a metalinguistic impossibility.
The source of the trouble can be traced back to the original culprit, i.e. the
sentence, deemed to be unsuitable as the basis for logic. The trouble is that
the sentences belong to particular languages (English, Greek, Latin, etc.).
What the logician seeks to substitute for the sentence is an entity which will
afford the same scope for identification, reidentification, generalization and
classification, but independently of the particular languages or words used.
The trouble is that this cannot be done -- or at least, not within the
Western metalinguistic framework. For that framework only allows us
to identify propositions, statements, assertions, etc. by citing
some sentence or part of a sentence.
SL: The moment this strategy fails, any formalization of logic collapses.
In other words, the logician cannot, under pain of undermining the
whole professional enterprise, claim that there are propositions
that cannot be unambiguously expressed in words.
SL: Herculean efforts to move this obstacle merely show how immovable it is.
For instance, some theorists have conjured up an entity which is supposed
to be what there is in common between an English declarative sentence and
its correct translation into any (or all) other language(s). This proposal
is either vacuous or circular. For then either there are no propositions at
all or else we are off after another metalinguistic will-o'-the wisp, namely
the criteria for "correct translation".
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