[Arisbe] Being Ahead Of One's Sign?

[Jon Awbrey]

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Yikes, that's way too deep a response to delve into
on a lazy hazy Sunday afternoon -- I will just have
to try and take it up again tommorow morning.

The theme is one that has recurred several times in a Math Forum
devoted to Math History.  It'll take me some looking to find the
first time that I noticed it coming up, but here is the general
link to the forum:

http://mathforum.org/kb/forum.jspa?forumID=193

Speaking of DMV's -- and as we all know,
YDMV is guaranteed to be just like MDMV --
have you ever seen the TV show ''Reaper''?

Later,

Jon

TG = Tom Gollier
 
TG: Interesting you would bring this up. Since I've retired I've been
    forced to deal with various bureaucratic institutions from the 
    outside -- as a claimant or client or even a "member" -- rather
    than from the inside -- as an employee. Such institutions are 
    semantic fortresses. Each has certain key words -- for instance 
    the clerk at DMV objected to my wife saying she wanted to "renew" 
    her drivers license when she wanted to replace the one she had 
    lost -- and those words interact in specific ways so as to make
    certain demands and produce certain results. They also, however, 
    are adeptly structured so as to preclude any protest or appeal of
    the results, but that's another story.

TG: Anyway, in reference to those who man their walls -- which I've
    always felt requires a substantial amount of internalizing the
    semantic categories and relationships --it does make sense that 
    they have no concept of this or that. They have  no sign for it within 
    the system, no way of working it into their diagrammatic machinations, 
    so they lack the concept. Saying so might be a "hypothesis" regarding 
    the persons in question, but it is not a "contingent interpretation of 
    their signs". At least it is no more contingent than our willingness to 
    objectively consider the semantic system as it functions through
    them.

TG: Of course, some of us still try to live in the countryside, outside
    the various castles dominating the landscape, but that's another
    story too.

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